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Glenn Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 3 Jul 1998 12:44:42 -0700
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>From:    Kim Burkard <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Bitching and Bashing
>>Glenn Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
><acme ferret and peta links clipped>
>>Everything you find there is a matter of public record and stands
>>uncontested to this day, even by MF.
>>If you can silence every opinion that you don't want to hear, your forum
>>is no longer a forum.  It's just a propaganda machine, tailored to your
>>specifications.
 
Poster:
>Uncontested?  I don't believe that is entirely accurate.  I believe that the
>information on the first two links you supplied has been contested here in
>the past.
 
By who, other than a few people on the FML?
 
>As for Peta, I'm not going to get into an animals rights discussion which
>is off-topic for the FML,
 
But then goes on anyway to say:
 
>Oh by the way, unless PETA has changed their tune recently you do know that
>one of PETA's goals is the erradication of *ALL* pets and companion animals
>- ferrets included, don't you?
 
No, we don't.
 
>I've tracked down one website that includes
>these type of anti-pet PETA quotes.  The URL is:
>http://www.compulink.co.uk/~embra/armyths.html .  (Skip 3/4's of the way
>down the page to find the quotes I speak of - Myth 2.15.)
 
This is a foreign based home page, devoted to the magnificence of
vivisection.  I hope everyone does read it, especially the part that equates
animal rights people with fascists and neo-nazis.
 
>As far as silencing opinions and a propaganda machine on the FML, I
>disagree.  Various opinions expressed in a variety of ways have always been
>welcome on the FML.
 
Is this what you disagree with?
 
>If you can silence every opinion that you don't want to hear, your forum
>is no longer a forum.  It's just a propaganda machine, tailored to your
>specifications.
 
No matter how many times I read this, I still find nothing in it that
implies that the FML is a propaganda machine.  It was clearly meant for that
those who think they can intimidate non-conformers into silence with
derogatory labels such as whiners, bitchers, harpers and bashers.  It simply
posed a scenario and the obvious result.  No need to try to create an issue
when there is none.
 
Glenn J.
 
[Moderator's note: OK, Glenn has had his response to Kim and I'm afraid
it's turning into a PETA etc. argument... please let's get it back on
track -- no more pro/anti PETA posts accepted unless specifically
related.  BIG]
[Posted in FML issue 2359]

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