Aileen, The trick about BIG's middle name is the "I" in B-I-G *MAY* have nothing to do with it at all. BI = Bill and G = Gruber, so BIG = Bill Gruber. Or so I've been told...... ;-) Now, knowing the BIG guy's middle name (as well as his teasing desire not to repeat it), all I will say is, it is neither Ivan or Irvine or even Izzie. Nor is it weird. The rest is up to you. ;-) Those of you who know Bill's middle name better not spill the beans. It took me three years and a trip to New York City to find out his real middle name. And I'm not telling. And it is not because I forgot or anything. No sir! I'm just not saying. But if you want to know mine, the middle "R" stands for Ray. As in sunshine. 'Cause I'm so bright. A sonny delight. Honest. Really. And yes, as a small child, people with funny accents did occasionally holler "Bob-bee Ray! Yew kum bak heer bahfor ahh pops yer buutt!" Some of my family was closer to the Australopithicines than others. Bob C and 16 MO' BIG Ferts (Missing Trillian) [Posted in FML issue 2914]