I have noticed over a period of time one thing, mailing lists are made of people. Duh! Good people and bad people in about the same ratio as any other segment of the population. We get some of the funniest, sadest, madest, craziest and greatest people (and their ferrets). When we understand this perhaps we will understand why there are flames and flowers, pains and joys. They are all expressed on this list. I think that is why I still enjoy this list so much. JudithMoonsong Ferrets bred to be the perfect companion http://moonsongferrets.virtualave.net [Posted in FML issue 2886]