Sorry about the problem accessing the site I sent for the heavy duty clear plastic tubes. They decided to change their menu for the holidays but now it is back to "normal" so they are showing those clear plastic tubes if you are still interested. I know it is too late for a Christmas present but the big fellows will appreciate it anytime, believe me. Here is the place to go to for em at : http://www.woodcraft.com At the top of their page select: Shop. At Shop select: Power tools accessories. At Power tools accessories select: Dust collection and from there you will find the 4 inch clear plastic hose. Enjoy !! [Posted in FML issue 2907]