I have another good story to relate, The local pet shop chain, Pet Supplies Plus(Akron, Ohio), stopped bedding on shavings and cat litter after my wife and I spoke to them. Now they bed on yesterdays news, have toys and a sleeping rag(better than nothing), plus water bottle full of milk (changed twice a day from what I was told). The kits are very very young, no more than 6-8 weeks. Last time I was there, there were 5 of them, all sleepy until I woke them up to play, then they were ready to go. Manager has never had a problem with us handling them, as a matter of fact, I have been singled out to explain how easy/tuff they are to take care of to customers (of course I always pull the person aside and plug the local shelter before they leave). I am working on getting Petsmart to donate some space and time to a ferret shelter like they do for cats and dogs. (They bring cats and dogs into the store from the shelter, and adopt them out right there). I sorta pissed one manager off, so I have to wait a while until he forgets (he broke a fish tank I bought[carrying it on a hand dolly, instead of a flatbed cart], and I insisted on a replacement right there, he wanted me to wait until the new shipment came in as it was his last one of that size). Laters All! -- Dwayne Miller [log in to unmask] ICQ: 49362615 http://come.to/fallenhunter Spambuster: remove the _ in .co_m [Posted in FML issue 2863]