Hi all, Well, this is kinda odd. I"m replying to my own post. Truth is I sent this a while back but it only got posted now. Not sure why, but I've since talked to Dr. Weiss so I thought I'd share the information. Apparently Dr. Weiss has done a little over 30 apparently complete bilaterasl in the last 4 months. I say 'apparent' because Dr. Weiss said only time will tell if indeed *all* the tissue was removed. The ferrets do indeed need to be maintained on pred and fluorinef for life and there can a bit of an adjustment time with some side effects while finding the right dosages but nothing serious or life-threatening as far as I can tell. It sounds very promising. Interestingly, Dr. Weiss has found that in the past, BC, before cryosurgery (hehe) recurrences for subtotal bilaterals were only about 15%. I was expecting it to be higher but apparently it's that low (depending of course on the surgeon, the type of tumor, etc.). On the surgical front, the girls won't be having surgery here till Nov 29th due to the days the surgeon is on and the various holiday's where there will be little staff. I know the girls can hold up but I've been a nervous wreck. I'll be glad to finally have this behind us, though I'm not rushing. Great news with Bugsy. We retested his blood glucose and it was NORMAL = 85~!! woo :)) . This stands as another lesson in making sure that blood glucose test are done WITHIN 4-6 hours. Bugsy's first test got delayed so long it was probably at least 12 hours after he had eaten so he ended up with a BG of 60! This is such a relief. Unfortunately, I have this sneakin suspicion Walter, my sweet gentle deaf boy (my lil flower child of a ferret), might be heading down adrenal avenue. I hope I"m wrong. I hope it's just that all the fat he put on this winter is spreading his skin so think his coat is being pulled apart at the seams! hehe. (he gains like 40% of his body weight in the winter...looks like he has a michelin tire inside his belly lol -but boy can he move). Thanks to everyone for your responses to my questions and your support, past and present. Oh and one more piece of good news. Another vet student in my class who is a ferret lover has been recruited. She was thrilled to hear about this mailing list along with the adrenal/insul. and cardio lists and will be joining shortly :). Meesh and the gang Bugsy, Whitey, Mighty Mouse and Walter (and Spikey in our hearts forever) Michaela Maurice College of Veterinary Medicine Ohio State University Class of 2002 [Posted in FML issue 2860]