I know many people want quick answers to ferret questions. BIG has some Great Archieves to read back issues of the FML. I go to BIG sites here and search on just words. This has been very helpful for me when I just want to learn more about a ferret topic. http://listserv.cuny.edu/Scripts/wa.exe?S1=FERRET-SEARCH&D=0 So if you are not getting respondes back, please give the above a try. It is so nice to have copies of so many topics. Debbie with the five who are always in trouble (VBG) [Posted in FML issue 2857]