it stands for Post Traumatic Gravy Syndrome. anbody else have it? it's been over two weeks since i made my first batch of bob C's gravy...and yesterday was the first day i looked at a chicken and didn't gag at the sight of it. . i got the grinder, i had a ton of info from wonderful people who emailed me with suggestions...i THOUGHT i was prepared. I think i would have done fine...but meat grinders aren't NEARLY as easy to operate as you would think... a hint for all those other grinder virgins out there--you have to grind in one direction!!! i thought i broke the grinder b/c as my arm tired, i switched hands---what i didn't realize till much much later was that when i switched hands, i z was also unconsciously switching the direction i turned the stupid crank. thus, i was mushing up chicken that wasn't coming out. i thought i clogged it--so i took it apart and washed it. put it back together again--couldn't find a sturdy surface in this tableless apartment...it was while i was pushing away ferrets that were trying to get the chicken juice that was dripping from the grinder (b/c i was going the wrong way) that i realized by mistake... needless to say..that was the end of night one... anyway--i finally did it. they love it. I am exhausted and ready to make more...so here are the questions.. 1. how much can i give a day? keera would eat it as her main food if i could, but i worry about tartar--she really digs in though! 2. how big of a roaster chicken do you use to make it? 3. we are sure the little bits of bone are ok right? so then how thick should i make it? 4. anyone have a lick and run ferret? i can only get fezzik to eat it if i hold him and don't let him run away. he likes to take a bite of it (does it with ferretvite too) and run away to eat it. No biggie, but he doesn't come back for more!! he is barely eating it! :( on a happy note--keera is about twice as active as before. i dont' know if it is the weather, the gravy, the fear of not having me all to herself (i've been babysitting fuzzies)...whatever the reason, i am soo happy!!!!! does this PTGS ever go away? i'm off to another meatless meal... Meg [Posted in FML issue 2825]