Not to necessarily slight pets.com (because I didn't order from them and don't know the details) but I'm not surprised about people having problems getting the TF they ordered. I've read on several lists now that many of those who ordered are having the same kind of trouble. When I saw they were having a huge sale, I emailed The Ferret Store just to see if they were aware of what pets.com was doing and I got a very nice letter back explaining that they were aware, and were a bit concerned because they had test ordered things from pets.com and had found that they were very slow to ship and to deliver the products that people order from them. Sadly it seems to prove the adage that if "something looks too good to be true, it usually is." I hope everyone who ordered from pets.com get what they ordered eventually and don't have to deal with too many hassles and remember that The Ferret Store sells TF at the lowest possible price every day and can ship to you within 24 hours in most cases. (note..I don't work for The Ferret Store, they're just my heroes..) Robynn and the Four Ferrets of the Apocalypse [Posted in FML issue 2836]