I just walked in to the bedroom to put a few of the guys in a cage. My oldest shelter ferret -Cheyenne- is humping my sleepy alpha ferret. Cheyenne was 6 when I took him home 2 and a half years ago. He had just had adrenal surgery and was bald except for his feet and head. Cheyenne has been a hard biter for almost two years. I just stopped applying band-aides daily about 6 months ago. Cheyenne would play, leap, run, jump on my arm or hand and bite hard and shake. Then he would leap away, leaving me bleeding. It was not possible to catch him to train him not to do this, because 1. I was bleeding and the blood was about to go on the carpet and my clothes. 2. If I let the blood just fall and tried to grab him, he would bite me again. I could not catch the stinker. I just learned to be cautious as to where he was, and where my arm was. Eventually, he settled down. He just recently started to get mouthy again. He bit my foot early this morning. But he has not broken skin. I mention all of this in case it means anything concerning his humping Wolf. As Cheyenne is 8 1/2 years old, if he still has part of his male parts inside him, is it too late for surgery? Do you think this is what is wrong? We have our appointments to see the vet for shots for all who do not have cancer in two weeks. Can I wait that long? Can Cheyenne just keep doing this? Mary never thought that he would live this long. I took him home right before Christmas. It was one of the most rewarding things that I have ever done. His joy at having a home and ferrets that bathe him, play with him, and cuddle him is obvious each and every day. The leaps and dooking noises coming from this once listless, docile, scarred and bald string bean still bring tears to my eyes. Thank you Lisette [Posted in FML issue 2796]