I don't usually say much... just read and learn from many fine folks here.. but this subject did get my attention. At the risk of opening myself up to flames, I am sticking in my 2 cents. Like Bev, I am both a rescue shelter and a breeder... the two are seperate entities, under seperate names and very definate rules. I can not speak for all who may do both, however I know for myself personally, the idea that something "unethical" goes on just because I do both is an insult. My ferrets that I breed ONLY come from other reputable breeders, of healthlines and bloodlines which are known.. and any kits which result from pairings are sold under my ferretry name with a certificate of parentage and contract from the ferretry. Since I am producing ferrets I feel an obligation to help the ferret world and ferrets less fortunate, hence a rescue shelter. Even though several ferrets have come into the shelter before unaltered, I would never even consider breeding them, they are "shelter" property and adopted out as altered pets only. By the same token, anytime I am able to do an adoption day at a local business, the ferrets featured are those from the rescue only, not my own bred kits. The only thing that is ever crossed between the two is that any extra revenue generated by the sale of my own bred kits is donated into the rescue account fund. I like to believe that my loved, pampered babies are proud to help support the less fortunate fuzzies. Whenever I am contacted about ferrets locally, I offer a fair choice of all that is available, and in fact, usually promote the rescue ferrets more. The reason is Tulsa is still fairly new to ferrets... 75% of those who call me have never had a ferret before and want to learn and I firmly believe that for a first ferret, a slightly older rescue who is calmer, trained and more laid back is a better choice than a young, hyper kit. I guess I am starting to ramble and I apologize... my only point is that there ARE many people who do or have done, both rescue and private breeding. Most of them are very reputable, and do a lot of good both for the rescue world and for the betterment of private lines. As long as the two are kept seperate, there is not (or should not be) a conflict of interest. I am proud to call myself both a private hobby breeder of quality bloodlines, AND a shelter who rescues and rehomes unwanted or abused ferrets. Susan Malone Fanciful Ferrets By Pegasus Ferrets Unlimited Rescue Of Tulsa [Posted in FML issue 2798]