Susan, Your dilemma about what to do with those two irresponsable breeders seems incredibly frustrating! Perhaps if you started keeping a log of the complaints, sick and disabled ferrets, and anything else going on that seems innapropriate. You could maybe use this documentation to get help from your local humane society after a bit of time. Sometimes if there are concrete records, (maybe with pics of the ferrets as you get them in) the authorities are more willing to "do something". If you have evidence, perhaps a local paper would run a story too about how the authorities were notified and nothing is being done if they STILL won't help, that is). Just keep dates, times, new owners, condition of the animal, etc. until you see an obvious trend. Hope this helps. Alicia, my heart goes out to you and your friends Sue and Jim, Witty sounds like he will be missed greatly by all of you. And also Diana, sorry to hear about Chena, my thoughts and prayers are with you both. Debra, good luck with little Paco at the vets'. It does sound like insulinoma symptoms, try some Karo syrup the next time it starts if he does it again...or, if it's possible, take him in immediately for a blood sugar test. It's pretty neat how he's known to EAT after both times...has anyone else had their ferret do that after an attack?? Take care, Michele & the 8 sleepy weasels PS- Pheonix, the new kid, is eating duck soup on his own and is stronger in his hind end a bit today! [Posted in FML issue 2805]