Bill included me in this discussion for some odd reason, and his comment was: >Sure. I have ferrets that like to play "catch". In the case in question >a woman was playing what she calls "cat". You hold the ferret belly up, >toss him up a few inches and he'll twist around and you catch him belly >down. Like a cat that always lands on its feet. Its not cruel. It was >probably not a great idea only because of location. Just cited you as >first in the list that admit to playing with your ferrets." The game I play with my ferrets is only a couple of inches off of a carpeted floor. I wouldn't EVER hold a ferret belly up and expect them to twist midair AND that I would catch them safely. I realize ferrets aren't made of glass, but I (as in me myself, personally) would feel uneasy about that kind of play. I was responding ONLY to the fact that you can play a sort of safe catch game, and that's perfectly alright. However, had I been at the ferret show and seen what the first poster related, I too would have been just as horrified. I've never seen any positive reaction from a ferret through negative reinforcement or discipline, nor do I advocate it in any way. Sincerely, Robynn McCarthy [Posted in FML issue 2760]