Hi Christy; I've had good luck with both Pycnogenol and a suppliment called Drenemin, which Randy in Canada also had a vet observe actually shrink adrenal tumors. Both are non harmful, non Rx. Details are on TImmy's web site, in my sig. Sources and dosages are in the notes following "Timmy's latest recipe", on same site. A PDF version is on the "resources" page. Take care, Gary & the gang of fur Timmy's web site=<http://www.concentric.net/~Gferret/>; He's the ferret totally healed from "terminal lymphoma" without drugs or surgery. :) My ICQ# 4461104 Timmy's Mailing List = http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/TimmyFerret Timmy's Forum = http://forums.delphi.com/m/main.asp?sigdir=TimmyFerret [Posted in FML issue 2700]