THE INDIVIDUAL WHOSE FERRETS DIED MYSTERIOUSLY SHOULD NOT -- REPEAT NOT -- BE INTERACTING WITH ANY OTHER FERRETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry about shouting, but it just freaks me when such things happen. BTW, I am glad that you mentioned the importance of autopsies and pathology work; they save lives! Not only do the vets and techs learn but when there is a mysterious illness in a group they save the lives of survivors. It really makes sense to do a post-mortem in any case with a mysterious death. Congratulations on finding out why the baby ferret was having trouble learning and then finding a non-painful, constructive way to teach him. One of the things being sold to help a shelter is a container which can be used for cremains. I'll have to try to remember to find the catalog and add that before I send. Can't open that door right now or I'll unleash a business of havoc into the rest of the house. Okay: it's FAIR, P.O. Box 952, Westmont, IL 60559, 1-630-968-8142, and it's the Ferret Etched Glass Box, $11.95, which they say can be sealed afterward with hot wax or clear caulk. There's a 7% tax for same state purchases, and a flat shipping rate of $5.00 for any order of any amount. I want a few things: some gorgeous fake-fur lined dream sacks ($11.95) and the ferret "boat" for them to play in ($15.95), though if there aren't any low air holes I'm going to make a few since it's plastic. Have to get our order out. Any hit to a nose or surrounding facial region can be a harder hit than you suspect. In the sinuses are very fine, almost paper thin, complexly curved bones. Ask to see a exploded skull some time; those are done with such care that these are present. You aren't going to find them in the standard models -- just too fine and too easily shattered to survive processing; they often don't cope well with stresses during life, either. The tougher bones a ferret has are easily enough injured (given how strong humans are and how small their structure is) so imagine what you can do to things so delicate. [Posted in FML issue 2664]