You should have been at the FML's 10th anniversary when Alex described what it is like being blind and having ferrets. It was a HOOT; he had us all in stitches describing things like eating with his arm around the plate. Hey, lateral thinking is still the best way to find solutions. ;-P >Also, I live in New Zealand and there are a FEW ferret associations here. >What saddens me is that they are all backstabbing and putting each other >down, it is really pathetic. If they don't pull it together they aren't going to defeat the rabid ferret foes. Some defeats are earned, unfortunately. Folks have to look at goals and put egos aside or they will be be only slightly successful, at best. Luckily, there usually are enough logical people that the grudge-match people get shot down once other folks challenge the destructive behaviors. [Posted in FML issue 2676]