Okay Sukie, Yes, I understand your thinking of me as surpassing the newby state! But in my *mindset* ( no I wouldn't venture there if I were you!!) I am a newby -- at least when you think of Mary and those who have exceeded the ten year mark! True it is creeping up -- oh my ! I wonder, what keeps me doing this? Haha! Anyway the BUsiness Week article hmmmmm.. I am not as far as I know, shbaring spirit with Steve-- but if I were to guess I would say another 60 days!!! ( now hopefully I am not on the mark-- that *would* be scary)! I am sure looking forward to meeting you and Steve in the future-- if I can ever break away from here-- as usual I am awaiting a call about 3 abandoined ferrets in a NH shelter-- sure hope they find a placement though-- as I am doing more than I can comfortably handle! Anyway-- thanks for the pat on the back -- so to speak-- for putting up there in my mindset of veterans. Funny thing is every time you learn something new (almost daily) about ferrets you still "feel" like a newby. I love the "putting yourself in the ferrets place" perspective especially on behavior issues and training. I think we take for granted so many things and we forget the perspective is significantly skewed for our little friends.... that can make a big difference. off to clean more cages--- alicia and the many faces at Ferret Wise [Posted in FML issue 2661]