Several months ago a friend turned me onto the ferret rice box. To keep sand, dirt, rice, etc. in the container (depending on the height of container, 12 inches or less). Take the lid to the container and cut out 2 4 inch diameter holes on each end of lid. This will let the ferrets a way in and out, also it's cute to watch 'Pop goes the Weasel'. This works well with clear containers with white lids. For containers that are taller (33 gal.), make ramps to go up and in at 1 or 2 of the corners. Bill, I hope you let this thru again. Hopefully this will take care of image theft. I posted this 26mar99: I was sent this from the OJC digest. (Operation Just Cause). It is ferret related when you go to the site and look under F; many of FML subscribers are there. You can search thru the rest of the alphabet for much more. *Arriba Vista* is taking images from websites without permission. They send a search spider through your web site and they harvest every single image that you have and they put those image names into a database. When someone goes there and does a keyword search, they are given thumbnails of your image, and when they click the thumbnail, the full size image is generated (your image from your site) and can be downloaded directly off of their web site, which means the person never has to visit your site to see more or to download the image. To get the full size image, they pull it directly from your web server. They are indiscriminate about whose stuff they pull, I even found a 400K graphic being linked to from a photographers site :( Go see if you can find any more of your sites graphics there and Gunny I didn't find your site linked to it yet, but you know a lot of people and can let them know so they look for their stuff - I am having help but we are few and their search engine is spider driven. :( We know this is bandwidth stealing. If you aren't familiar with how web hosts charge for bandwidth, they generally give you an allotted amount, and if you go over that, they charge you more money for every MEG that you go over. Every time *Arriba* shows the full size image of your image, they are using your bandwidth which can increase the cost of your web hosting bill. Bandwidth should be for the people who actually visit your site, not this kind of search engines who are making a profit off of your images. *Arriba Vista* is putting all the websites they are pulling images from into a very prime position to go over the allotted bandwidth allocation and therefore will be charged more by their web host. We are suggesting that you go to http://www.arribavista.com/ and search keywords that you might have in your site. If you find your images there do two things write to them at: [log in to unmask] and request that your images be removed immediately! and that your web site should be placed on the block list so that their search spiders can not enter and harvest your images. Request for detailed information on how you may prevent any further harvesting by their search spiders. Then rename your images and upload a graphic that can be displayed instead *G* Please let your friends who do web building know about this site too. This site is making money off a lot of peoples hard work and that is wrong. Just check it out and if your work is there or your friends work is there do not hesitate go into action. [Posted in FML issue 2654]