Thanks for all of the kind, supportive and informative E-mails! Noname is doing well, still a nipper but getting better (then worse, then better!). Interestingly, if I scoop her up while she's out running around loose she does not fight me a bit even if I transfer her into the cage. barely a nibble, more likely just hangs there. If I try to get her to stay in my hands, watch out. No cuddling for this beastie, though she'll run around in my lap and up and down my arms. She will bite and wiggle and if you give her an opportunity to get her mouth around a whole finger, yow. And of course any kind of chasing, perceived or otherwise, runs you into a wall of teeth! Basically there is NO fear, just a large portion of youthful exuberance combined with a bit of crankiness (why can't I have my way?!?!?). She is slowly learning that she is going to go and do what I want, and that this large 250 pound ferret is going to win any dominance battle. She was following me around like a shadow tonight, I was walking on glass afraid I was going to smoosh her (see note above about 250#!!!). 90 percent sure she's a she. No little belly button thingie...methinks the petstore owner uses "neuter" indiscriminately and the spaced out puddle droppings were from ferret motion, not ferret anatomy. So I'm thinking up girl ferret names, and I would like to capture her personality (and NOT name her "Ow dammit")... Litter training went too smooth, after I blocked off the upper stories (she could not negotiate down from level 2 to the floor level, so she started launching off the balcony much to the dismay of my carpets). I removed the ladder and plan to carpet it for traction, and in the meantime put in extra large litter box and filled all of the cage corners with extra food bowls or bedding. That was Monday night, she hasn't missed the box since. Thank goodness, because the Midwest Model 140 Ferret playpen is nearly impossible to clean. In a month or so I'll try adding a level and see what happens. I want her to have a fun area because I work and she will have to stay caged. More on the model 140 in a future post. Anyway, all is well, she still hasn't drawn blood! And it is still beyond my comprehension how I'm going to get her bell collar on!! Todd Collins and NoName Just miles from Kodak, Xerox and Bausch and Lomb (unlimited copies of a = picture of my ferret wearing sunglasses?) [Posted in FML issue 2619]