Hello-- After reading your post I thought a response was in order. Though I can understand your complaint on cleaning plastic bottom cages we found a wonderful alternative aand are slowly replenishing shelter cages. Ferret Wise folks happened across Martins Cages at a show a year or so ago the cages were impressive. Later we discussed some alternative ( custom) designs. NOw we are pleased to say we have plastic pull out pans ( no wire floor above) which are very easy to clean. Something shelters can certainly appreciate! I think these cages are WONDERFUL and easy to clean! http://www.martinscage.com or link off our shelter page! or email [log in to unmask] good luck alicia for the many faces of Ferret Wise http://www.dartmouth.edu/~crassi/index htlm [Posted in FML issue 2578]