first, the bowl thing: Justin was a really big bowl digger. Nothing would break him of the habit of digging in and then overturning his food bowl. What I finally had to do was drill a small hole in the bottom of the bowl(its plastic) and also through the vinyl tile under it, and attatch the bowl to the floor with a bolt and wing nut. The cost was less than a dollar for the entire thing. Just unscrew the nut to get the bolt out. about the urn/box thing: Im so sorry to hear about the loss of any ferret. Ive been there, and its no fun. One of the things I do for a living is paint custom boxes of various sizes. If anyone that has lost a pet is interested, I'd be more than happy to paint a box in any colours for just the cost of the box itself and the shipping. Examples of my work can be seen at http://www.bronxelf.com/work.html . Not looking to make *any* money on this. Just thought it might be nicer than a generic thing, and certainly less expensive than an urn. anyone interested, please feel free to contact me directly. sorry for your loss, elf. bronxelf Grand High Huntress of the Renaissance Assassin's Guild-"Chooser of the To Be Slain": Assassin #001. Dominatrix at Arms and Guild Hall Lieutenant of the Renaissance Mercenaries Guild. A.F.R. Goddess of Steel High Priestess of the Cult of Chucklehead Weezowmommy, Elf of Sarcastica, Leader of the Call 'em as I See 'em Brigade Slave to the Five Fugitive Ferrets of the Apocalypse. http://www.bronxelf.com "To err is human, to forgive is not our policy." --Anonymous "Inspiration is for amateurs."-Elizabeth, from alt.crafts.professional "Just call me Edie"- Me. "If you don't like it, you don't have to give it up."- "You Don't Have to Give it Up", Chucklehead The creativity of an elf knows no bounds. [Posted in FML issue 2593]