As I recall someone here wanted to follow up on the tv or radio news mention that ferrets had counted in an earlier study, and said that they heard a quick report that some psychologists had found that rhesus can count somewhat in a recent continuation of such studies. (I can testify that our ferrets SEEM to know 1,2,3, more (a number larger than 4) and more-more (a number much larger than 4.) Anyway, for those who trying to find an actual report on the topic to search back there's an article on page 296 of Science News, Vol. 154 (Nov. 7th) which talks about a full report in the Oct. 23 issue of Science, and also how this new work bolsters the views held in SN: 7/11/98, p 27. The people whose work you want to read are psychologist Herbert S. Terrace and his graduate student Elizabeth M. Brannon at Columbia University; if you can't find what you wan there you could always go the pers. com. route. (In rhesus they saw some concept of 1 - 9, BTW.) [Posted in FML issue 2489]