Sukie, Dr. Judi Bell may be onto something. I have a menagerie of fuzzbutts-MF, Unknowns (no marks or tattoos, but altered and decented), jills and hobs. I have controlled the lighting on all of my fuzzbutts. I have yet had a problem with adrenals and a couple of my older ones are MF and no health problems as of yet. (Knock on wood). My jills are always a year are more in age before their 1st heat cycle. That way the jills only has 1 litter a year. Less stress on their bodies and I get healthy, large kits from the litters. I have also found that less lighting on my hobs, doesn't stress them out either. They can actually play together a couple of months a year, without the vicious fighting. Their scrotums shrink almost down to the size of a tack head (with form as a usual scrotum). I just received a 6 month old jill and a 5 month old hob. I will keep her lighting down to a very minimum until she is over a year old to be bred. Now the 5 month old hob is another story. He plays like a kit, but has the scrotum size of an adult hob in rut. He can be kinda testy with the other fuzzbutts when out to play, so I have to watch him or he starts getting aggressive with my alters and jills. Sometime he calms down once I say no Chesty. I'm not sure of their lighting before I got the 2, but each day that goes by, Chesty seems to settle down a little more. I'm hoping it is because of my lighting and not the 'no' word. I don't want him going ballistic next year before he is a year old and in early rut. I check his scrotum every day and it has not gotten smaller yet. Now that this subject has been brought forward, I wish I had kept a journal. I would like as much info that comes out by Dr. Bell as possible. The more the better. It could be a very good way to reduce the instances of adrenal and other susceptible illnesses. ANON [DH] [Posted in FML issue 2508]