>The Drenamin worked wonders and after only 1 week, Saigon started to grow >his hair back! The veterinarians and shelter moms I have spoken to have >all said that there is no proof the Drenamin shrinks the tumors, only that >it grows the hair back and reduces other symptoms. Drenamin is a Standard Process supplement used by chiropractors in some states for the purposes of addressing adrenal insufficiency. ('Insufficiency' is, btw, different from adrenal failure!) Some chiropractors recommend this supplement for people who are under heavy stress. Further details, I'd have to dig out my folder, and since I'm in the middle of moving, that will be a delayed effort. Though I am not impressed with the thoroughness of the clinical testing of the Standard Process products, there is a fair amount of anecdotal evidence for it. (Of course, most/all docs will tell you that anecdotal evidence doesn't prove diddly, and I'm in agreement with that.) I do, however, occasionally take S.P. products myself. I happen to have a bottle of Drenamin here in front of me. Drenamin contains: Defatted wheat germ, calcium lactate, cellulose, nutritional yeast, vacuum dried buckwheat juice and seed, bovine liver powder, vacuum dried bovine adrenal, vacuum dried porcine stomach, bovine adrenal PMG extract, choline bitartrate, oat flour, vacuum dried alfalfa juice, magnesium citrate, mushroom powder, niacinamide, bone meal, potassium para-aminobenzoate, ascorbic acid, allantoin, vacuum dried bovine brain, carrot powder, soy bean lecithin, vacuum dried veal bone, riboflavine-5'-phosphate, mixed tocopherols, peanut bran, and pyridoxal 5-phosphate. (Apologies for typos, that was touch-typed while I read the label.) Standard Process offers several adrenal products; there is another product for acute situations (i.e. severe stress, NOT adrenal failure!) and another (the PMG thing) that contains vites, co-vites and minerals which support adrenal function. I have a wary respect for Standard Process products and like I said I do use them, myself, but my hard-science background is such that I would love to see many more clinical studies done before I become trusting enough of their positive effects to tout them as strongly/loudly as some chiropractors do. This Dr. Taylor should contact S.P. and write up the data for publication; we need it! Ferret Aid Society -- What dosage of Drenamin did you use for your ferret? What fraction of a tablet and how many times a day? Did anyone suggest the PMG product or the Drenatrophin? Were any other products recommended in addition? I am interested to know. For reference, a human dosage begins at 3 tabs/day as a low-range end. I am not currently selling S.P. products and am not interested in becoming a reseller. However, if someone out there needs them for their ferrets and can't find it any other way, mail me; I would be willing to obtain it at the Rx of your veterinarian. Due to WA state licensing limitations (rrrrghhh!!) I cannot provide them for human consumption. >Hi everyone.. I need information for my vet.. He can't find Drenamin in >his PDR and has no clue what it is.. He is happy to order it in and put >these new fuzzies on it but wants to know what it is.. what it does and >who makes it if possible so he can order it.. It ain't in the PDR. It is not, techically, a "prescription" drug although it takes a health professional to order it. (Unless you get sneaky and go to a chiropractic college bookstore and buy it there. Hint hint, to anyone in Portland Oregon.) You can refer him to me, if you like, though I would not call myself an expert on S.P.'s. They have a website at http://www.standardprocess.com/sphome.html. Products are only orderable by health care professionals. I'm not sure if they let vets order or not, as the products are intended for humans, but your vet can always try. Was there a Drenamin thread I've been missing somewheres??? I could dig out a LOT more information but right now it's past midnight, my time, I've driven over 6 hours today and basically, I'm tired! In a nutshell I can tell you that if your vet is looking for a PDR-like description of S.P. supplements, chances are he is not gonna get them. Welcome to the hinterland of Chiropractic. Whee. (Sarcasm intended... but not at you.) - Megan p.s. for those who are wondering what the heck 'PMG' stands for... sorry, I forget at the moment! A rough translation is "stuff for support of the organ in question." The first time I saw it I thought "priMoGenitur" since that is a good succinct explanation of 'stuff for the support of the organ in question', and of course that (the wrong thing) stuck in my head and now I have a terrible time remembering the correct one!! Acronyms and mnemonics are the *BANE* of doctors....rrrrrr. (And if any of you are TERRIBLY bored I can share with you how I keep straight which cranial nerves are sympathetic, which are parasympathetic, and which are both... but only via e-mail <eg>.) -- Megan O'Shaughnessy, L.M.T., D.C. http://www.teleport.com/~megan/ "Progress in ethics is the only cure for progress in science." -- Dr. Freeman Dyson, quoting Haldane [Posted in FML issue 2464]