Not necessarily meaning to flame on anyone, just voicing a sincere feeling of bewilderment! If hitting fuzzies so hard it SCARES THE PISS OUT OF THEM literally isn't abuse, then what is? After reading a further attempt at explaining the situation I sill must ask: WHY was the pissed scared out of him? I have never known (not saying it isn't entirely possible) any animal to have the piss scared out of it by a loud voice from someone it knows. I don't know that the language barrier is the problem or not. My concern is for WHAT IT IS THAT SCARED THE PISS OUT OF HIM????? It is a natural response observed throughout nature that when the stress response is set off and we/animals go into FIGHT OR FLIGHT, we sometimes urinate/deficate. Study anatomy and physiology sometime. As a side note: WHY IS HE THE STUPID ONE? He had no control, as this appears to have been a response similar to those we have called REFLEXES!! IN OTHER WORDS - IT WAS OUT OF HIS CONTROL!!! Lastly, was it really necessary to print the whole email from Mrs X with line by line commentary? (Forgive my need to do the same by cc this to the FML) LilLoneWolfe (I'm done now) & The Fuzzie Carpet Cruiser: Monkey (Whew) Taz (Thank The Gods/Godesses) LilLoneWolf <[log in to unmask]> [Posted in FML issue 2462]