Well, I went and bought a 50 lb bag of rice from Sams. $13.99, and I looked around for a larger bag, it just didn't look that big in the store. Brought it home and started pouring it into the clear plastic storage box I had bought for $12.99 at Walmart. I wasn't going to make it too deep before I knew how they would like it. Probably used an 8th and if I filled that big container, it would not even be a half so I am going to have to learn to like rice even better than I have been liking it. The noise of the pouring brought them out of the woodwork. They dove in and instead of just burying their nose, they buried the whole heads. The sides were kinda high but they still flipped rice over into the floor. The playing didn't last long. It was no time quick they got out, trotted their little selves over to the sandbox I had yet to remove from the room, and went back to their routine in the sandbox. No question this old recycled catbox of $1.67 sand was the favorite. Both boxes have been in there 2 days now. I "catch" more ferrets in the sand than rice. And why am I bothering to have this in the house anyway. They go outside for over 20 minutes every day and normally dig a hole deep enough I am panicing cause they go out of sight. I fear they won't be able to get back out by themselves, but its their nature to do this, they love it, I am annoyed, nervous, anxious, and I still let them do it anyway. As Barbara says, we try and we try and we try, then we try something new For the ferretone (really olive oil at my place), I use a cleaned Clarol Nice & Easy hair coloring bottle. The long spout works great for us and it lets out just a drop at a time and they lick furiously, some times chew a little but it doesn't hurt the spout. Also, if I need to squirt something like a pill , it is neat for that too. Have a couple sitting around up high because I forget where I used them the last time.(bottles not ferrets). Millie & her noble cleaning crew Easy Off: the most perfect ferret in the whole wide world Ammonia: Grandma, can I dress up like a dumb silver mitt to go trick or treating?? Cascade: Oh, Joy, you are such a drag anymore. There's more to life than just hobs hobs hobs. Ajax: Pssst, Uncle Dizzy, over here under the rice, quick, Joy won't find us here. Dizzy: I think the vet really operated on the wrong end when he went to desex her. Joy: Oh, here boys, here I come, little Joy is going to scratch your big old tummies again. [Posted in FML issue 2474]