oops, my post said "His web page (in my sig) has the whole story & latest recipe that has evolved over the years to make up with the toxins in our food supply, and the special needs of the guys." It should read "... evolved over the years to make up FOR the toxins in our food supply, devalued quality of our food, and the special needs of the guys".. Sorry for the confusion.. too little sleep & the brain fog from my cfids. hugs to all, Gary & the gang of fur Timmy's web site=<http://www.concentric.net/~Gferret/>; He's the ferret totally healed from "terminal lymphoma" without drugs or surgery. :) ICQ#4461104 [Posted in FML issue 2445]