Hi Vicky, et.al.; A shelter found having a solution of Timmy's tonic in water available all the time has their insulinomic ferts self feeding, and in over a month of watching, no one crashed at all. The tonic is what Timmy was on when he was healed from "terminal lymphoma" almost 4 years ago now. His web page (in my sig) has the whole story & latest recipe that has evolved over the years to make up with the toxins in our food supply, and the special needs of the guys. Take care, Gary & the gang of fur Timmy's web site=<http://www.concentric.net/~Gferret/>; He's the ferret totally healed from "terminal lymphoma" without drugs or surgery. :) ICQ#4461104 [Posted in FML issue 2444]