I can't remember who it was that posted about giving up on their 5 month old biter. I meant to reply right away but didn't. I just wanted to say that giving up on a 5 month old is way too soon. I think it's good to keep him away from people who wouldn't understand being bit, and would maybe make problems for you, but don't assume that he's going to be that way his whole life. I have one ferret who just turned 1 year in May, and he didn't really become trustable (is that a word?) until about that time. He was just too "wired". I used to drip on the floor quite often, merely because I picked him up. He would feel something grab him (me) and whip around and nail me. But for him what worked was stern "NO BITES" and scruffing, and sometimes a hiss thrown in for good measure. It wasn't fear making him bite, just his rambunctiousness. So continue with whatever measures you find work to curtail his biting, and figure that in maybe 6 months or so, you will have a ferret who rarely if ever bites. They usually do calm down as they become more mature. Even now, I can tell just by looking at Luthe if he is even THINKING about nipping, and "no bites" will make him think of something else to do. But when he does try a nip, that's all it is, a nip. The hard blood-drawing bites are pretty much a thing of the past. Good luck! Karen [log in to unmask] ================================================== Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with Ferretone. ================================================== If you love ferrets, check out: http://www.dartmouth.edu/~crassi/index.html ================================================== [Posted in FML issue 2400]