We've "duct taped" our sofa, so that they can't get in between the seat and backing. So even if they get under the cushion, the duct tape is blocking them. They're persistant though, and NOTHING is ever ferret-proofed. You just keep trying. I know we do! And its a never ending battle, and we've taken stock in 3M Duct Tape. - Mish ____MICHELLE Z. MATTA____ Desktop Support Consultant Carnegie Mellon - Computing Services http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/user/mish/home.html [Posted in FML issue 2414]