Hi again -- got Teletubbies on as my godson watches it... great UK television on PBS heheh --- (no im not in the UK) anyways -- Elvis has left the building -- my dumb ass boyfriend had my lil girl Jezebel out side and when he wasn't looking she took off -- I only had her for like 2 days and now she's gone. I doubt I will ever see her again cause we have stray cats that run around but my hopes are still high but I doubt it. poor Jezy... well yesterday I'm sitting at home and in walks my boyfriend holding something a a towel and he said that he felt sorry for her getting away and that he was looking for her all day up and down the street where we live but with no luck. He felt so bad that he went out and bought me a 7 week old male I named Angel ... aint that cute. He also said that when we find her we'll work them together. Anyways on another note -- I want to give my condolences(sp) for all the lil sick ferrets I've been reading about -- when I first came on this list with my lil sick Vinyl I was cruificied by how I took care of him and things I used for him in daily life. Vinyl lived to be 2 yrs and 3 months old. 90% of the list was helpful and considerate to my loss and helped me through a lot (Ariel I think you were one of them and Jenniferret) and I want to say now that im back on it seems like everyones kid is sick and stuff and its sad to see..............It's also nice to see that how helpful everyone is being as well. CAT LITTER -- to the guy (dont remember your name) who asked about this in the last digest. I used cat litter for Vinyl (fresh step) and he seemed fine with it. I didn't have any problems with him using it, I asked my vet and other vets and they said to use it -- I asked the lady who runs a ferret shelter around me what she used and she said cat litter as well cause the other stuff for her can get expensive when your running a shelter on your own money(she does it out of her home and she does have a big heart for all her ferrets) -- I am still using cat litter for my lil Angel now as well... The pellets to me dont seem as though they would work good and im not too keen on the paper stuff becuase of the smell and stuff -- BUT HEY I'm open to any decisions. I also am feeding my lil tike IAMS kitten food until I can get to the pet shop and by TF food.. so dont kill me yet. Where I live the pet stores in ton dont carry much in the way of ferret esp litter or food... and right now im a lil low on cash and things will have to wait Angel is fine eating and using what he has. OTHER CRAP ok I could use any help, advice and info anyone can give me on young hobs. Angel like I said is a 7 week old male (silverf mitt I believe) he has whitish hair and black guard hairs which soon will show color eventually. Ok I was reading on the biting things since he is a lil biter...... I'm feeding him dry and moist kitten food, have a water bottle(the larger kind) and a water bowl in the cage -- which I think I have to buy a smaller bottle so he can use it... My question is When should I stop feeding him the moist kitten food (and yes dry food is in the cage at all times)? I have seen him eat the dry food With a smaller water bottle(nosel) can I take the water dish out of the cage? How can I let him wander through my room without getting lost? Is it alright to use Johnson and Johnson baby Tearless shampoo(or the sensitive kind) to wash him and can I start now? and is he old enough to get shots? (which he has to go to the vet anyways to be checkout last off my nicknames for him Angel Michael (is his full name - Angel cause he looks like one and Michael after the late great Michael Hutchence of INXS) -- I call him lil Fucker cause he bites, lil Angel I rambled off enough and im leaving... Jena & Angel [Posted in FML issue 2403]