I decided to put in my thoughts on breeders.Since I bred show cats for 20 years,I've seen it from both sides.Yes,I know ferrets are different,but the principals are the same.I believe that if you are the cause for a critter to be in this world you are responsible for that life for the duration of that life.Probably why I quit breeding.I couldn't seem to find the right people for my babies.One guy said to me "I'm not adopting a baby?"I told him yes you are and you can leave.I have 9 cats now, leftovers from breeding,all in teens.I decided not to breed ferrets early on,because I knew I'd probably end up keeping the little terrorists.I have enough critter math giong on as it is.9 cats ,3 fuzzies and 1 old horsie(my female ferret dearly loves horsie).The vet bills are enough to get a government grant to study aging,hey,now there's an idea. A spike collar huh?How about a leather jacket also?(they have them)Try getting one for a Chihuahua and downsizing.I use either a hot icepick or a leather punch to put extra holes in to make it fit.If theres too much leather left over cut it off,but cut to shape it looks better.Hey Zen,what a cute typo.Ferrets hunting ferrets.Mine do it all the time when one has a treat.Ever want to see a ferrets sniffing ability,take a raisin and drag it across the carpet or floor,and watch the fuzzbutts go on a raisin hunt. I guess I have to watch what I say around here.What with Bobs mail floating around in the nether world,if I say Beam me up Snotty I may get his mail.I can just see some poor unsuspecting soul getting his e-mail and wondering what is a ferret.I'll try to contact the other side for you Bob, with my ferret medium(size),and see what I can do.If you see your computer saying' Help Me',promise me you'll download. Sandy and the 3 fuzzbusters [Posted in FML issue 2356]