Bill, I don't know where in cuny you are, but I'm a Hunter grad and on the wall facing 68th Street (in NYC) was (and still is) a quote from Emerson, "We are of different opinions at different hours, but we all may be said to be at heart on the side of truth." Which might apply to all we do on FML. I am in aggreement with those who find the bashing a little hard to take. On a lighter note, like the Lombardis, we went to pick up a ferret, Molly, whom we have adopted. She was described as a maroon eyed white with a black tip to her tail. However, during the 50 mile drive home, she underwent a sex change in the back seat! Molly became Merlin. He is 2 years old, the original owner just gave him up for adoption 2 months ago. The lady who fostered him had him for 3 weeks. Doesn't anyone ever look? SG [Posted in FML issue 2383]