I've found that the most sure-fire way to cabinet-proof my kitchen is to place large, heavy objects in front of each cabinet door. This way, I can shove aside the big, clunky object, stub my toes every time i walk through the kitchen, and still almost prevent Potpie from getting into the cabinets! At least with heavy objects blocking the doors, I can hear her trying to get in in time to stop her. There are a WHOLE lot of ferret (and other) pics at: http://www.umich.edu/~squirty/pics/digicam.html Melissa <> <> <> <> <> <> <> melissa litwicki [log in to unmask] <> i'd like to meet a spaceman who's got it goin' on [Posted in FML issue 2309]