Sorry, Bill, but you had an "Opps". Path Valley actually DOES use the retired breeders as baby sitters. No joke. (Remember that Steve and I have visited them twice; you can do that, too.) They also adopt out any handicapped ones they get to reliable homes. Fortunately, this is rare occurrence but anyone producing enough kits is going to see some -- even if just from uterine crowding now and then, or from novice mothers grooming off digits. Path Valley has some info brochures with their kits. Honestly, I disagree with some of the things in it such as the training techniques, but they are willing to listen and learn. We have had a one year warrantly with every PV except for the freebie handicapped ones who joined our family. This included Ashling who joined our family last April. They also maintain an info phone number: 1-800-FERRET1. Sukie [Posted in FML issue 2244]