Ok. folks, I'm running a bit behind on finishing the adrenal post, mainly becuase the data conflicts so much with a couple of papers that I've read. I hesitate to post something that may be obviously biased, so I am setting on the stuff and pondering it. I will post the result no later than next weekend, although, like I said, the results were somewhat different than what I expected. Thats the problem with being a scientist; the ethics of reporting values which are apparently biased without attempting to explain or correct for the problem. I've just been considering reasons for the difference, thats all. I will report the findings, I'll probably just put a lot of disclaimers into the post. One other problem is the post will be quite long, so I'll probably have to post it directly to Bill (and I know his middle name, naa naa naa) so he can post it as space permits. Its way longer than 125 lines so be prepared for a long read (I can never figure out the 125-lines thing anyway because I use a file size method that doesn't translate in my brain. Sort of like I can use metrics or miles, but I have a hard time translating them. Well, I *know* a pound is .45359237th of a kilogram. Just stuck in my head, like pv=nrt and stuff like that. Just don't ask my phone number...) As for *why* the adrenal reports were so biased? The FML is *not* composed of typical ferret owners, its that simple. Rather I should say, the people who reported the adrenal stuff are not typical ferret owners. A very large part was reported from ferret shelters or people who adopted ferrets that had a history of illness, neglect or malnutrition. That means the sample was not random. What I'm trying to do is see if I can correct for the skew, but it's not looking favorable. As for any correlations, well, if I can't correct for the skew, then any correlations whould be as good as "96% of all Americans who die in accidents are wearing clothing, therefor clothing causes accidents." The skew can hide the cause-effect relationship. Everyone knows its nudity that causes accidents. Bob C and 20 MO Accidental Biters. [Posted in FML issue 2205]