Had to add my $.02. My little girl only played with a toilet paper tube once, when she was under 4 months old. She got her head stuck, and it was the first time we ever heard her "scared or hurt" cry. We tore the tube off of her, and suddenly became her "saviours." We'd had her for a while before this happened, but she hadn't really accepted us and loved us until we saved her from the nasty toilet paper tube. So, we got lucky, and she learned to avoid them. Debbie & Jim Pixie (The one in charge) [Posted in FML issue 2230]