>From: Edward Lipinski <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Oh Pity Maryland Ferret Folk >Here is a good example of what could happen if citizens voluntarily >registered their guns. First registration, then licensing, and finally >confiscation. We don't let our ferrets have guns. I guess we are big brother as well. <grin> >From: "K. Smith" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Take the ferret challenge! Pop Quiz! >his legs and tail are very light brown color. Red eyes, pink nose, very >light colored thin V-shaped mask, and the rest of him is a very light color >champagne. I'm under the impression that he is either (or both) a >Champagne/Siamese, or are they the same? The eye color is probably what we ferret folk call ruby. If you look carefully in the right light you'll see a blue iris with red showing through. An albino's red eye is ighter in appearance usually. Siamese is another way to describe the point pattern. Highly distinct coloration on the legs, tail and mask (the "points") and light to white body. Champagne color in ferrets is a dilution (partial albinsim of the chocolate color) Sounds like your buddy is a champagne (cinnamon is another name for the color with some small and controversial differences - ignore the differences) If you mean that the body is a different color than the legs then a champagne point while if its the same color but with a lot of "white" mixed in the champagne standard. >From: Anne Ryan <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: ferret sales/adoptions at shows It is a shame that an intolerance is showing up again. Many folks have pointed out the geographical differences between East and West so we won't reiterate. There is also a bit of cultural difference between urban and rural. Selling one's animals is an aspect or farming. But it is a shame to see most of your post as a "we're better because you are thinking about money" argument. bill grew up in an agricultural area and now we again live in one. While it is true that money is involved in all aspects of agriculture it is most certainly also involved in even the most pious of ferret organizations. In regards to farms its usually a lack of money. We don't know the situation with the Flemmings but we're guessing they are more or less like the other breeders in Michigan. A larger scale than ost in the urban Mid-Atlantic but not anything close to a ranch like Marshall or Path Valley. LOS is a rather political organization and it uses this sort of bashing of others too frequently. The Flemmings breed ferrets and sell them. So what? So does the president of LOS. So does (or did) the president of just about all the ferret organizations we can think of. You too have said you were planning on breeding (or have bred by now). It is and it is not "just about money". Breeders of animals do sell their animals for a higher amount based on what happens at shows. True of all animals we are aware of (though we were corrected that sales of puppies at dog shows is not the same as kits at ferret shows but offspring of champions do bring in higher prices). Comments emanating from members of LOS mirror those from all other groups though not as openly. We do not recall meeting Amy or Derek nor have we had long email conversations with them. But we know you have no room for attacking their ethics. A farmer's mentality is not evil as you imply. If it were not for ferret ranches then basically none of us would have ferrets. LOS shows are not like GLFA shows. The Michigan shows are larger. LOS shows are gaining a reputation for light walk through traffic which translates to less income for vendors be they breeders, shelters or merchandise. The GLFA shows have many people that did come just to get the best ferret they could find. We don't think we could inprove on how well others have stated that. >From: Brandy Jean Ashmore <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Marshall Farm Ferrets >http://www.acmeferret.com/infobank/marshall.htm, >http://www.acmeferret.com/infobank/ferabuse.htm In our opinion those articles have been discredited... bill and diane killian zen and the art of ferrets http://www.zenferret.com/ mailto:[log in to unmask] [Posted in FML issue 2221]