my two are in gorgeous, glowing, good health, full of dooks and pounces and wardances, they use the litter box about 50 % of the time when out and have one place other than th box they want to poop, they don't bite, they smell yummy and ferrrety, and they have both just got thick, long, luxuriant winter coats without the slightest sign of a hairball. wow, that was really boring, wasn't it? maybe that's why no one ever writes posts like that. siani and the menagerie Matthew Ardill "El Carnicero de Canciones" [Posted in FML issue 2156]