I should have written this post immediately after I was at the vets since I've forgetton half of what was said. Somehow the vet and I got into a discussion and he brought up something "new" that people buy in health food stores that helps with joints that get repeated injuries (joggers etc.) and arthritis. Something that helps keep the white cells from invading the joints. Apparently the white cells invade when there's swelling etc. but stick around and hurt good tissue too(?) causing a downward cycle to start and continue where the good cushioning tissue continues to get damaged, the white cells keep coming etc. I think he called them something like neutricells? They're not shark cartelidge, they come from the throat bones in cows or from clams/oysters. Does anyone know anything about this? R Plants post made me think of this. Mary and Giesela (my sprite thats up to 2.6 lbs!) and Boris the treat hound who's still skinny and Booker the rescue dog who's starting to get that coffee table look [Posted in FML issue 2155]