It won't mean much without the survivors of confirmed adrenal disease. In about 15 years with ferrets we've had only three with adrenal disease. Hjalmar (from a private small breeder working with a now-defunct local mom and pop pet store) had lympho associated with his right adrenal. It had spread by time of surgery. With steroids and chemo he had another 14 months, with his health very reasonable and his temperment happy until close to the final days thanks to the meds, and he passed away at about 8 years of age. Ruffle had the common form -- a benign neoplasia -- but had other health problems simultaneously and those were what killed her. (Bob is very familiar with Ruffle's hard tissue problems and knows her history.) Meltdown had a malignant tumor (well encapsulated as is not unusual with this form of adrenal malignancy) of her left adrenal at the age of 5. Removal was curative and she went on to live another 3 and 1/2 years (three and one half YEARS) because treatment was provided. (Of course, that's nothing compared to ferrets like Katie Fritz's Bandit (an ex-FML member and not Kathy) who had lympho and got another 5 years from the Jeglum Chemo protocol, but that's another case and not one of our's.) Busy a lot the last few days. Will post on states again probably tomorrow or on the weekend. [Posted in FML issue 2152]