Yep, that's right. Had. This morning she went to the vet and had her uterous removed. Vet said she came through the surgery well and is doing fine, but she hasn't let me see her. She doesn't want Cinder getting excited or moving around too much. Cinder also has to stay at the clinic overnight. I would like to have her with me, but I would rather her be where she could get help just in case anything bad happens, on this first night. I would also like to publicely thank Martin and Zen and Ferretwise and Dr. Williams for their replies to my post. I really wish she could have had kits, but Cinder's life and health are more important. Happy dooking folks. [Posted in FML issue 2171]