>From: Sandi Ackerman <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: zen blows it Well thats a rather nasty sounding topic. We are far from perfect but we disagree that we blew it this time. >We strongly object to the continuation of irresponsible and erroneous >statements about how we do business! Taking one persons misinformation >and then discussing it as fact is becoming slanderous. We strongly object to your attacking us after misreading our post. If you read the post following your in the FML you might understand our point better. We have fully researched the whole defamation topic for reasons not to be discussed at this time. There is absolutely nothing we have said slanderous (or libelous) about you. We weren't actually discussing you in that particular post. We said: >We strongly object to nosy questions on income. We don't even tell our >respective siblings how much money we make. Its not anyone's business >except the IRS. We did not say "Sandi Ackerman asks nosy questions". We object to questions about our income from those who really have no business knowing but never said that you did ask such questions. We spoke to the issue not to a specific incident as it was several steps removed from a direct comment on any incident about you and Mr. Tilford. Someone had implied that it was fine to ask such questions and we responded to that. >Get your facts straight zen!!! Likewise. >The Best Little Rabbit, Rodent & Ferret House (Sandi Ackerman) is NOT >associated with Ferret Wise. We were responding to post from Alicia Drakiotes who does run FerretWise. You (Sandy) do not do the begging on the list that she does. Our comments have nothing to do with you but were directed more or less at the person to whom we responded. We have posted that we are not able to decide the truth of the matter between you and Mr. Tilford. We still can not though you react with an awful lot of anger for no real reason here. Maybe you said somtething he didn't like. Maybe it was prying and maybe it wasn't. He apparently thought it was and you thought it wasn't. Thats as close to the truth as we expect to come. At this point we have no grounds for calling either Sandy Ackerman or mr Tilford a liar. But they disagree to some extent on what happened. Way too much anger is getting expressed here. >zen, you may be giving away your ferrets to people who can not afford to >care for them, that's your privilege. Or are you just selling them to >whoever has a check that will clear? Your insulting comments are misdirected and I feel not appropriate for this forum. That whole section where you refer (as you have in the past) to us negatively merely becasue we are running both a shelter and a ferretry is nothing but inflammatory rhetoric and wholly untrue. We have discussed our policies on adoptions before and don't wish to re-iterate them at this time. We are sorry you felt attacked but we assure you we did not intend anything we said as an attack on you. We didn't actually intend any of our comments as a direct discussion you of you or your business. bill and diane killian zen and the art of ferrets http://www.zenferret.com/ mailto:[log in to unmask] [Moderator's note: OK, time to call an end to the flaming about this. Alicia, Bill and Diane, Larry, Sandi ... you've all had your shots and made your points... if you continue the debate about what really happens please do it off the FML. BIG] [Posted in FML issue 2149]