>From: Edward Lipinski <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: The ferret harness We agree that the old style two buckle H harnesses aren't all that good. Never liked the figure 8's either. At least the nylon ones availabe around here. they where not escape proof and barely escape resistant. And the connector on the back keeps falling aprt when we use them. Leather straps might very well work better. Best is the velcro H harness designed by the Warm Fuzzy Ferret shelter folks. Plus you can feel good knowing that buying the supports one of the better ferret shelters we know of. They supposedly have a donated web site coming on-line but neither they nor I know the URL. >From: Edward Lipinski <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: The ferret, badger, and the coyote Well if you mean to inform lets fix a few problems. >The badger is the deadly enemy of the ferret. It is the only one predator >of the ferret that can dig the ferret out of its den, kill it and eat it. The natural habitat of the ferret is a cage not a den. Its not found often in the wild. Also do you mean the European badger here? Sometimes ferrets were (or are?) used to hunt badgers the same way they hunt rabbits. Well only big old hobs would be used for this. Jills are too small. >Also, there is an interesting, but terrifying relationship between the >badger and the coyote. These two predators work together to get and kill >their ferret prey. Nope. Can't be. The Coyote is North American and there is an American badger (not the same species as the European one) but there aren't wild ferrets in America so the two American animals can't co-operatively hunt wild ferrets. Unless you mean the black footed ferret. But you are right that American badgers and coyotes co-operatively hunt together at times. Usually ground squirrels and prairie dogs. If a BFF happened to be hanging around with the prairie dogs they could be in trouble. And stories are just stories. Do you also decry Aesop's fables such as the mouse and the lion? Is there anything published that mentions ferrets that you do like? bill and diane killian zen and the art of ferrets http://www.zenferret.com/ mailto:[log in to unmask] [Posted in FML issue 2146]