Hi Ya'll, First I would like to thank Bob Church for all the great info on bones and osteoporosis. It is a very complex subject and he has done a good job of breaking it down. (OK, just don't groan too loudly ok?) Also, I think the idea of the radiographs for bone density in ferrets is wonderful!! I did not fully understand the relationship with adrenal disease and bone mass loss. But I do know that radiographs are used with folks for this. A friend in Houston who is first generation Swedish American, in her 90's, short, thin, etc. (IOW, all the markers for trouble) actually has radiographs done a couple of times a year to check on her bone density, or lack of. You can barely see her vertebre any more on the xrays and she is extremely crippled from bone density loss. As for medical references for cats, which I do look at for ferrets also, is _The Complete Medical Guide to Cats_ by Robert Perper and Edward Kepner with Randi Londer. The only problem I have with this book is my copy was published in 1985. I am going to check if there is a more recent version, but it does have some very good info on first aid, shots, etc. On the personal front, I have been dragged all around Columbia today shopping by this mad woman staying with me that I can't seem to get rid of. ;-) Not that I really want to. We actually worked up our nerve and tried a Mexican restuarant here. It was actually good, although it was mainly tacos, sandwiches and burritos. Much better than the only other one I have eaten at. But I do miss the fresh seafood in Houston. The Mustelid Mob mailing list is going well, we are in the mid-50's for subscribers. BTW, it ain't a Maggie Mae only list but I will warn everyone, lots of broads on it. Lots. hehe. If you want to subscribe send an email to: [log in to unmask] And just put the word subscribe in the body of your email. Should work out fine. Or email me and I will add you. I hope everyone is going to start off the New Year with a bang. I have a bottle of champainge that I got last year and may actually manage to drink it this year. Yep, my life is so sordid alright. hehe. But I have many major changes in the works on a personal level and am looking forward to wonderful times ahead. Blessed Be, Maggie Mae When you do the things you do, I can never, never, never let you go When you feel the way you feel, you can never, no never let it show. R. Plant [Posted in FML issue 2170]