while i do believe mr lipinski has a point about the danger of improper breeding practices to gain show quality( what ever that is, depends on the sponser of the show) ferrets the problem lays with the standards of the shows and not the shows themselves. I also have read some of the olympic events and there seems to bee a few events that i would be afraid a ferret would get hurt at as i have not seen thease events in action this may not be the case. Anyway i feel that mr lipinski is unfairly attacking the shows instead of attacking the standards of said shows. Please note this is not an attack on anyone we do need doom sayers but i feel that we need to prsent a better attitude toward each other. Doomsayers are needed to keep us aware but they must be careful to pick there battles careful less we take them as crackpots. Mr Lipinski you in my opinion are a doomsayer and thank god for you we need you to keep us on the right path even if i do disagree withsome of your opinions i do respect you and your hard work. yours truly jeff and the main gang [Posted in FML issue 2128]