Re: Jackie's post about dragging the water dishes around... which is standard operating procedure here (playing with the cat dishes, the dog dish, getting the entire floor wet)... one thing is to put a towel under the dish; I also have a lovely little ceramic dish that is wider at the bottom (bought from the FACT [Connecticut] shelter a while back) that's pretty stable. By far the best solution I've come across is using "coop cups" which screw on to the side of a carrier, cage etc. They can be bought in the bird department of pet supply stores, but I got mine from "Ferret Essentials" (FMLer Sharon Burbine's mail order business. Sharon can be reached at [log in to unmask]). And your guys can still snorkle if they want :-) Ronnie Ralphie, Harry, Prince Charming, Merlin, Roxanne & Petunia's mom [Posted in FML issue 2139]