In response to Pepper still bites and he just goes to sleep when punished in his cage... I too had that problem; I've switched to use using the pet carrier cage as a timeout cage. The carrier cage is completely empty, not even a t-shirt, so their is nothing to eat or do. They HATE it; they'll rattle the bars for several minutes. This is the only thing that has helped my Nikita's lick lick lick chomp CHOMP! habit. Sam -- Samuel H. Abbe, [log in to unmask] Software Engineer, Flight Controls Systems Sikorsky Aircraft Corp., United Technologies Corp. voice:(203)386-6558, technet:536-6558, fax:(203)386-5202 [Posted in FML issue 2060]