Hello all! Again I want to thank all who have sent me info on the Pharoh (2.4 years?, sable, MF) problem. He still seems to be doing fine (knock on wood) although he has been going back to the cage earlier than before (tires quickly). I'm getting off early from work on friday so I'm going to try and get squeezed in right before the vet closes. That is if my regular vet is available. One thing I forgot to mention was that about 3-5 minutes before he went limp he came up and bit my foot. He usually only bites when we are playing ferret games (wresling, etc.) but this time he was just walking around and came up and did it. I guess he was trying to tell me he was feeling really bad. I'll have to keep it in mind in case it happens again. It's really strange, when I first got him I was worried he was an adrenal ferret because he was so thin and losing his fur. His fur is coming back but not as thick as the other ferrets and his is gaining weight. I was prepared to pay for what ever was necessary to help him if it was adrenal and I am still willing to do whatever is necessary if it is insolinoma. I guess that solves the problem I was having when I first got him-his previous owner had wanted him back after he moved and could take better care of him. But even then when I mentioned if Pharoh was adrenal he might need surgery- the person was basically telling me he'd rather put him to sleep than spend the cash. But he is mine now I guess (I haven't heard from the previous owner since the time I told him about adrenal surgery) and I'm glad. Even if he is sick he has a much better life with me and the gang. Our best to you and your furry ones. Laura and The Troublesome Trio + Pharoh -we really need a new name since there are four now. [Posted in FML issue 2012]