Can't compare ferret National group to AKC... cos the main reason the failed and splintered off is they tried to make AKC certified dogs. Big mistake. Since they don't have the resources to check out all who apply or claim this even puppy mills can get this cert. That is the number one reason for AKCs downfall. Now I seriously doubt we would want to certify ferrets. So maybe one group isn't so bleak. It can't be that hard to agree on color and patterns. Not with a little time and compromise. And a neater name for a mutt group so it can be special not embarrassing. Heinz 57 makes beautiful specail color and patterns, and should get more credit than mutt. IMHO :) -Raechel & Kevin =-=-= Monkey, Kona, Mitz, Two, Beezer,and Lucky=-=-= [log in to unmask] "Look Mom and Dad, We have our own email address!" VISIT OUR FERRET WEB PAGE http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/8259/ [Posted in FML issue 1977]